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Post by modicasa on Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:48 pm

Since 6 June it is now a legal obligation to provide the certificazione energetica when you sign a compromesso, and not as before, by the date of the act of sale.  It is also obligatory to write it in a letting contract.

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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by modicasa on Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:29 am

And now just to make things more difficult.  If you are planning on selling your property your agent is now legally responsible for your APE - so you must provide it before the agent can list the property for sale.

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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by LisaSard on Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:02 pm

Dimwit question alert ......  What is APE?

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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by Geotherm on Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:43 pm

Think this may be what Modicasa means "ACE"

http://www.delgiudice.clara.net/ENG/EnergyCert.htm

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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by LisaSard on Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:00 pm

Oh thank goodness for that! I have an ACE, but no APE....phew!

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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by ghiro on Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:59 pm

LisaSard wrote:Oh thank goodness for that! I have an ACE, but no APE....phew!Thanks




Personally I've always found that an APE is more use for getting from A to B Very Happy
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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by modicasa on Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:00 am

The ACE changed from being an ACE to being an APE on 6 June - dont ask me why.  I suspect it is a ruse to keep colour laser printer manufacturers happy.

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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by Geotherm on Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:21 am

Thanks for the correction.Suppose it will be another way to generate more income for someone, especially if you have to change from ACE to APE!!  Link to the new details below:

http://blog.mountee.eu/2013/06/17/italian-implementation-of-directive-201031eu/

http://www.dailyenmoveme.com/en/regulation/italy-convicted-eu-measures-energy-certification-buildings


Last edited by Geotherm on Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:41 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Possible reason for the APE)

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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by charlitaly on Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:42 pm

I have just received the energy certificate for a house I have for sale  from the geometra. I sent it to one of the agents who are listing the house and they say that the certificate must be registered with the Commune and stamped to that effect. Does anyone know if that is the case?

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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by Geotherm on Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:51 pm

charlitaly wrote:I have just received the energy certificate for a house I have for sale  from the geometra. I sent it to one of the agents who are listing the house and they say that the certificate must be registered with the Commune and stamped to that effect. Does anyone know if that is the case?

 It probably will be the case, as then it is certified as being authentic with them. Don't you love the number of people who have access to what you are doing What a Face

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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by Gala Placidia on Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:19 pm

"Big Brother" is alive and well... Twisted Evil
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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by The Original Relaxed on Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:30 am

I don't think that is the case (that it has to be stamped by the comune). 

I have little experience of these APEs or ACEs, as they are quite recent, but I took one to a notaio the other day and the print was barely dry - certainly it wasn't stamped by the comune or carried a bollo - and it was quite acceptable.

If the agent is insisting on a certificato d'agibilita  (or abitabilita) then that does have to be a formal stamped document.
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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by modicasa on Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:55 am

The APE does not have to be signed by the comune.  it is released by a qualified 'profesisonal' and that is it.

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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by lucasmarge on Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:38 pm

I'm sorry, I'm house in Milan. But Ape or Ace are the same?
In Lombardy there are different laws?

thanks so much

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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by modicasa on Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:52 pm

They are basically the same thing.  If you have an ACE which is valid you are fine.  upon its expiry you will renew it and it will be an APE.  The ACE is no longer issued.

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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by mozza on Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:11 pm

Does anybody know how much it costs for this ape/ace and if it is needed for houses over a certain age?

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record APE?

Post by Sagraiasolar on Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:06 pm

just got our APE for a typical stone farm house ... C rated and only just missed a B .... our  agent was amazed and is going to do a write up on the systems ... is this a record?
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APE cost

Post by Sagraiasolar on Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:09 pm

mozza wrote:Does anybody know how much it costs for this ape/ace and if it is needed for houses over a certain age?

€200 is about the mark ... tops.   used to be double that but it's just a preprinted app thingy and takes no time at all.... ask for lots of copies.
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Re: Certificzione Energetica

Post by modicasa on Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:58 am

The cost is based on the square metrage of the property.  From 1August there are changes in the way it must be calculated, which (I reckon) will lead to professionals charging more for the service as it is to be homogenised  throughout italy - even though they still only need a calculator and a colour printer.

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