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Post by Admin on Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:18 am

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I read today that whilst the government have upheld the suspension/cancellation of IMU for 2013 on prima casa for the second installment, like the one in June, the comuni have until the 9th December to declare at whch rate it will be payable. This means the cancellation is declared at one rate then the comuni hike the rate and we will alll have to pay a 'mini-installment' by 16th January to cover the difference. Watch this space as I'm sure it'll change again!
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Re: IMU 2013

Post by ghiro on Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:53 pm

Neil D wrote:
Carciofo wrote: Has anyone published an IMU For Dummies?
In a country where, according to today's estimate, tax evasion runs at 130bn Euros annually, 'IMU for Dummies' is taken as read.  It is only for dummies.
Ah ha!  Yes!  We Brits are brought up to be honest, pay our taxes and be model citizens.  Never to get involved in a cash transaction to avoid IVA.  Perish the thought.  Shocked  Shocked

However not paying your Italian taxes is not always plain sailing.  I love the 'hit' in the up-market ski resort Cortina d'Ampezzo last year.  Of the owners of 133 supercars parked on the streets no less than 42 of the owners had declared an income of less than €22000/year!  I bet that took some explaining.  Smile
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Re: IMU 2013

Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:06 pm

ghiro wrote:
Neil D wrote:
Carciofo wrote: Has anyone published an IMU For Dummies?
In a country where, according to today's estimate, tax evasion runs at 130bn Euros annually, 'IMU for Dummies' is taken as read.  It is only for dummies.
Ah ha!  Yes!  We Brits are brought up to be honest, pay our taxes and be model citizens.  Never to get involved in a cash transaction to avoid IVA.  Perish the thought.  Shocked  Shocked However not paying your Italian taxes is not always plain sailing.  I love the 'hit' in the up-market ski resort Cortina d'Ampezzo last year.  Of the owners of 133 supercars parked on the streets no less than 42 of the owners had declared an income of less than €22000/year!  I bet that took some explaining.  Smile
Do hope they were hit hard! Is 22,000 the top tax bracket?

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by modicasa on Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:04 am

Your F24 semplificato is not difficult to fill in.  there are websites which will do it for you - such as http://www.riscotel.it/calcoloimu2013/?comune=null
though its not 100% reliable.
IMU for Dummies would be already out of date, and in 3 weeks we have the TUC.   
If you are at a loss go to your local CAF, (centro assistenza fiscale) where they will help you do it for a very modest fee.

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by modicasa on Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:45 am

There has been a mini amendment - if you have outstanding IMU to pay the deadline has been extended from 16 Jan to 24 Jan.

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by Vicino on Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:57 pm

So.............

Can some kind soul SUMMARISE where we are officially at?

Is the 40% difference payable again, at all?
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Re: IMU 2013

Post by modicasa on Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:38 am

If you comune has changed the aliquota from that set in the spring, and you have paid both instalments at the original rate, then yes, you must pay the difference by 23 Jan.  

For example.  COmune A sets the aliquota at 7.6 in May for second homes and 4% for prime case.  By June we know that prime case are exempt, but 2a case must pay.  THere then follows 6 months of general mucking about.  First week of December the comune decides thtat 2a homes should pay 8.6 and first homes 4.8.    You didnt know and paid what you paid in June.  

So... by 23 Jan you should pay the difference between 7.6 and 8.6 for the whole of 2013 on a second home. and/or 0.8 on a first home.  However, with 1a case, you must check with the commune because not all comunes apply it - in fact almost no comune has fixed a higher aliquots for 1a casa, because they assumed they were exempt.  If you have a 1a casa that is A1 A8 or A9 then you pay at the second home rate.  If you are in AIRE then some comunes will make you pay.  If you have a D10 then you will pay in some comunes and no others.  Some comunes will demand payment on land, others not.  

Id say check the website of your comune or call to see if there is a late amendment and then you know what you need to do.  The websites for calculation of IMU are generally not current as regards the comuni censiti.   ANd so on.

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:41 am

Thanks again modi. It's just a shame they don't have joined up government and a standard website address format for the comune's. For those that need it,  quick Google for "comune di" with the Comune name added seems to find them...

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by Vicino on Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:06 pm

Modicasa !!!!!!!!

You are entitled to a glass (small !  Laughing  ) of Prosecco if you are ever near our village !!

Blimey !

Merry Christmas to one and all !

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Re: IMU 2013

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:33 pm

Superb! Little wonder the country is struggling...

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by modicasa on Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:37 am

or use the online calculator which gives you the figure to pay.

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by Vicino on Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:21 am

The link is indeed super, but I wouldn't make my other half try to understand it, it wouldn't be fair !!

I used the online calculator, which also is superb

 http://www.amministrazionicomunali.it/imu/calcolo_imu.php

But....... I'm still not 100% sure whether I should pay the sum that IT comes up with OR 40% of it !

I used to be quite bright !   Shocked 

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by modicasa on Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:01 am

you pay what it tells you to pay..clever programme does the calculation.  (I hope)
but make sure you click the MIni IMU button in red at the bottom and fill in what you have paid thus far in the Acc and Saldo windows.  Click on modifier and then on the Mini Imu and it should tell you exactly.
If you cant click the Mini Imu button, because it isnt highlighted,then your comune has no Mini Imu !

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by Vicino on Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:47 am

modicasa,

Superb as always...........

as an aside............I have obviously read your excellent response, now that I have replied to you, my post now takes position as the most recent post.

Hopefully others on the forum can still see yours as it is the important one ? I'm not sure how that works ?

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:03 am

Modi is this "mini imu" button on THIS page? If so what is the wording as I'm not seeing it...

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:04 am

I also note when you click on the comune it comes up with text - ours is
"Comune montano (ISTAT)
Presente in Circolare MEF del 14/06/1993 n. 9
Comune non censito. Presenti solo aliquote base
Consulta la delibera del Comune e modifica le aliquote se diverse da quelle deliberate."


But others are different...

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by Vicino on Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:26 am

Steve,

I THINK it come after you click the aggiungi immobili button...........it's red text centre near the bottom of the page ?

I still don't understand it ..............my comes up with a payment of €127 but should I pay 40% of this amount(€127) or does the €127 represent 40% of the increased Aliquota ?

I think I'll pop along  to the comune and ask them how much they want !

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:17 am

There was a recent POST on the Abruzzolutely forum which give THIS LINK which seems to give you all the comune where the mini IMU is payable. Not too sure how accurate the data is or how you calculate it (Modi's link likely does that for you), but others here might be able to give an example. Judging by the post on the above forum, many comune still don't have a clue....

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by Vicino on Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:53 pm

Blimey Steve....................I'm not stalking you but...............ANOTHER superb post !!! Don't know where you get them from !

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:55 pm

The thanks has to go to Lax... Pitty he/she give up on us on here... big loss.

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Re: IMU 2013

Post by Casa Monal on Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:32 pm


IMU paid on Friday the 14th February  Laughing  No late payment penalty. It took the Commune novo settimane to reply to my email though! But at least we received a reply…first time ever!  Now that’s progress  Very Happy 
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Re: IMU 2013

Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:37 pm

Shows how much things vary from Comune to Comune, emailed ours from UK to say we knew there was a bill, but were here a while and could they send us a copy of the bill... Ok, 2 weeks later, but a full copy of the bill....

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