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Post by chriscol on Sat May 24, 2014 7:56 pm

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We pay €50 per month, €600 per year for Sky TV at our house in Bagni Di Lucca.  We visit for approximately 12 weeks per year, so approximately 3 months. Does anyone know if Sky Italia are prepared to switch on/off a customers Sky subscription so that a customer only pays for a what they want to use?  Are there any other TV packages which would allow us to only pay for the time we are actually in Italy?  Seems mad to overpay.  If we could pay say €200 for our use that would free up €400 to enjoy eating out!  P.S. We don't take the sports package.

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Re: Television

Post by Flip on Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:07 pm

The Murdock Empire strikes again.
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Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:28 pm

.. yes thinking about it I can't see anyone being any better off if they want to see BBC, ITV etc as they will still not want BSkyB broadcasting their progs. Well unless Murdock buys those rights as well...

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Post by lancashire lass on Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:44 pm

Well, we have finally admitted defeat, the dish is being removed next week it's a eyesore and doesn't provide any channels any longer. Tried to watch Dr Who on filmon but not enough bandwidth (it kept stopping), no chance of cloud italia so italian tv it is!!!

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Post by The Original Relaxed on Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:03 pm

One option for watching the BBC online in Italy, even if you have a slow or unreliable broadband connection, is to use the BBC iPlayer download option. 

You do need to use a vpn or similar (which hides from the BBC that you are connectingg from outside the UK). Some of these are free, though I pay €5 a month to www.iportal.me 

I don't know whether the other British channels offer a download option.

I download stuff in the mornings, when my adsl speed is decent, and it takes about half an hour to download an hour long programme. Sometimes I download at slower times, and it can take up to two hours to download an hour long programme, but it works!
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FTA Reception via Satellite

Post by Janin on Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:11 pm

Astra 1L at 19.2 E has a strong footprint for Italy and it seems I would get several free German channels: 
http://www.lyngsat.com/Astra-1L.html

So far, I haven't found BBC channels for FTA reception, though..... Sad
Any leads?

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Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:26 pm

Janin what;s this FTA? Filmon.com also do German TV if you have good web access.

Lancashire Lass don't give up, Relaxed suggestion is good, you also could look at boosting your internet signal if you have not done so. Watching Italian TV seems a bit over the top!!!

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Free GB TV

Post by Janin on Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:16 pm

stevegwmonkseaton wrote:Janin what;s this FTA?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-to-air#Satellite

http://www.lyngsat.com/freetv/United-Kingdom.html

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Re: Television

Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:47 pm

ha! That's how much tv we watch - none... Embarassed

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Re: Television

Post by ghiro on Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:18 am

The situation, after a summer of trial and error, at Casa Ghiro is as follows.

To recap we have a 1.2m dish and our coordinates are 44.23N, 9.95E.

Using UK Sky (with a Freeview card) conferred no advantage.  The reception disappeared at the same time as Freesat.  And since Freesat has a much better range of programmes (eg ITV4+1 etc) both our TVs are now on Freesat boxes.

For most of the summer we have had excellent receptiion of all the channels during the day but the 'main' channels usually become unwatchable from 6:00pm onwards.

Our broadband has a download speed of 2Mb/sec which is perfectly good enough to watch live TV on Filmon.  We can also watch Sky Go & BT Sport on the internet through a VPN.

I suppose the critical factors are:
1) The size of your dish
2) Your geographic location and
3) Your broadband speed.
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Re: Television

Post by lancashire lass on Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:52 am

Hi Giro in answer to your questions

1.We have a 1.4 dish and a a freesat box and we can't get anything at all.
2. Reception for even Italian tv with an aerial is poor in Bagni di lucca where we are, too many hills!!
3. Broadband is supposed to be up to 43 mbps (I doubt it we get anything near that) using our mobile broadband. Limited to 7 gb a month

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Re: Television

Post by ghiro on Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:58 pm

lancashire lass wrote:Broadband is supposed to be up to 43 mbps (I doubt it we get anything near that) using our mobile broadband. Limited to 7 gb a month





You can find out your download speed here: http://www.broadbandspeedchecker.co.uk/

Also, as Steve so helpfully pointed out a while ago, you may be in the wrong place for a 'wobbly sidelobe' and therefore you'll never get anything on Freesat:  http://www.a516digital.com/2014/02/special-what-changed-in-european.html


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Re: Television

Post by lancashire lass on Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:09 pm

Thanks for the link, I tried it and the download speed is 4.81mb/s.
Italian tv it is! (the only thing to look forward to is the Doctor who espisodes our son says he is going to send us)

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Re: Television

Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:52 pm

lancashire lass wrote:Thanks for the link, I tried it and the download speed is 4.81mb/s.Italian tv it is! (the only thing to look forward to is the Doctor who espisodes our son says he is going to send us)

... if I was getting 4.81 Mb/s I'd be over the moon, more than enough for Filmon, what device are you using and how is it connected?

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Re: Television

Post by lancashire lass on Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:18 am

We are using an i pad conected to vodafone mobile wi fi

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Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:41 pm

lancashire lass wrote:We are using an i pad conected to vodafone mobile wi fi

Does the iPad hold the sim or is there another device involved e.g. router and how is the tv connected (or do you use the iPad to watch)? TV over wifi is always going to be a bit of a problem as it is so hit and miss. Tested our connection (have done so many times before) and could not believe it registered 2.4 mb/s download and 1.74 upload.... Normally 0.7 mb/s download! Tested again half an hour later and back down to 0.8 mb/s. I would have a look at the link Ghiro provided in particular this bit Broadband wifi improve , both the channel and the configuration are good points. I know your is not Windows, but the same applies to OS. Run another checker and see what you get, try in different rooms in the house. This Speedtest will give you a ping speed, which if over 100ms is not good...

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Post by lancashire lass on Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:57 pm

No the sim card is in the mobile wfi chiavetta not the ipad. The TV is connected by a HDMI cable.
i just did another speed test and this time i got d.speed 0.248 Mb/s u/speed 0.421 Mb/s which is probably nearer the truth than the other day. I used your new link and got  ping test 64ms  d.speed 2.97 so not sure what it all means!?

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Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:23 pm

Sorry LL, just catching up after a thunderstorm outing... your wifi sounds like ours, up and down ... Anything Apple is not my favourite, but a quick look around and it would seem there are a number of issues with them using wifi. Bit like Windows stuff, one of the main problems seems to be they are not configured properly for TCP (internet main protocol) as is also the case for Windows. Unfortunately from what I can find the only way to configure this on an OS device is to jailbreak it as they must have it locked down.  The ping of 64 is not superb, but well acceptable (under 50 being what you are looking for). Is the device with the sim a Wifi R209-Z by any chance? Most of these devices allow you to set “HSPA only” in the network settings. Not too sure how much you are in to such things, but you normally can access these by typing or pasting something like http://192.168.0.1 in to your browser. Happy to try to help further if needed.

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Post by lancashire lass on Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:21 pm

We have an R206. Thanks for your help.

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No problem..

Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:17 pm

lancashire lass wrote:We have an R206. Thanks for your help.

 No problem..  Guess this is it ? I can't get access to the advance settings for this device, but [url=http://devicehelp.vodafone.co.uk/filestore/devices/Vodafone/R201 Mobile Wi-Fi/VodafoneMobileWiFiR201-Config-Guide.pdf]R201 advance guide  [/url]is likely similar if not the same (user guide is HERE..  if you need a electronic copy)  . In the advanced guide, page 26 is of interest as to the settings. There should be something like I said before to set the "Network" settings to HSPA only. The channel setting could also be important if you see other wifi connections when you are connecting i.e. neighbours could be an interference on an overlapping channel. If you have other devices then they can cause problems. Depends on how far you want to look into it, but I suspect as I said your access is like ours, up and down! Saying that, since we had to buy a new netbook, almost the same spec, it's access to our web here in Italy is 3-4 times better. Obviously you don't want to throw money at it, so it would be better to know if other devices can access ok. Borrowing to find out would be the best plan if you can't get better access from your iPad. Wifi boosters, better routers, mifi devices would all help, but if your access is only as low as last posted, then not too sure they will help. Your device is the same make as ours and we've found it goes to sleep, press the button a few times (not too long to switch it off) and BANG it jump into life and 3g can go to HSPA... Trial and error also found out that a particular room in a particular spot was 10x better than anywhere else... Same in UK for us, on the windowsill in kitchen is the only place that works... If you try and find somewhere is better, then it's down to a booster or extender if you want it in a particular place. First off I would look at your current MIFI settings (R206) to see what they are set at...

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Post by lancashire lass on Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:08 pm

Success!!!!
At last, we recorded a program on Filmon, the next morning we downloaded it to our laptop, copied it to a data stick and that evening inserted the data stick into our PVR and bingo!! we watched the program on the tv no problem!!!

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Post by ghiro on Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:05 pm

lancashire lass wrote:Success!!!!At last, we recorded a program on Filmon, the next morning we downloaded it to our laptop, copied it to a data stick and that evening inserted the data stick into our PVR and bingo!! we watched the program on the tv no problem!!!
Hooray!! Smile Smile Smile
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Glad to hear you did not give up.

Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:49 pm

lancashire lass wrote:Success!!!!At last, we recorded a program on Filmon, the next morning we downloaded it to our laptop, copied it to a data stick and that evening inserted the data stick into our PVR and bingo!! we watched the program on the tv no problem!!!

Glad to hear you did not give up. So what worked for you, downloading at a particular time?

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Post by ghiro on Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:46 pm

stevegwmonkseaton wrote:So what worked for you, downloading at a particular time?
Interestingly enough watching Filmon for us earlier this evening was a nightmare.  When I checked the download speed it was a miserable 0.342 Mb/s. Sad

Now back to it's usual 2.05 but very irritating.  Is it other people also using it that reduces the speed?  Is that, perhaps, why LL was so successful on this occasion?
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Post by stevegwmonkseaton on Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:03 am

ghiro wrote:
stevegwmonkseaton wrote:So what worked for you, downloading at a particular time?
Interestingly enough watching Filmon for us earlier this evening was a nightmare.  When I checked the download speed it was a miserable 0.342 Mb/s. Sad Now back to it's usual 2.05 but very irritating.  Is it other people also using it that reduces the speed?  Is that, perhaps, why LL was so successful on this occasion?

This is where I disagree with you about using internet search engines for information. It would take me an age to sum up the variety of  issues that can cause variation of wifi speed, or in fact broadband in general. This LINK is a prime example of its use, it is one of many sites I've personally "got experience of" over time, I think the internet can be overrated, but also in many ways it's real impact on the present and the future is way, way underrated. My old job(s) brought me into contact with the net and search engines and at first I found them very frustrating, that was until I learnt how to use them properly. But I digress (or rant), this is either suitable to an "internet" or "froums, warts and all" post Smile

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Post by lancashire lass on Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:28 am

Well i think I spoke too soon! in anwer to the above question yes we downloaded in the morning as the connection seems better then but since our first flush of success we have been unable to download anything!!

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